I agree with this wholeheartedly. I'm in the market for a new reader/reference manager to replace Papers3 and am eagerly awaiting the ReadCube/Papers hybrid - however, with such shoddy support and funkiness that is currently Papers3 - Bookends is looking really appealing (aside from the reader aspect of it, but I think that's going to improve). Is there a timeline for the hybrid? Is there currently any support for papers3, or are we left with just google?
Mekentosj who created Papers have always had a horrible approach to support, customer interaction and software quality control. If the leading members of that company are in any way involved in the new Papers/Readcube hybrid, then I am staying far away from it. I am not paying for more lousy software than I already have.
Hi, as you are Papers users, and I have nowhere else to go I wondered if you have experience running Papers on High Sierra. I am getting pressured to update my OS, but I wonder what 'funkiness' I am going to experience. Support have written me a kind email, but would rather hear from some users what their experience is. Thanks in advance.
At this point, it's difficult to determine what problems are specific to Papers and what are caused by High Sierra. Currently, most of Papers 3 runs okay on High Sierra, but as a whole, it definitely doesn't run great. Here are the problems I think I'm having specific to High Sierra and/or current iterations of Microsoft Word (16.8 current)
Heh, I see they learned nothing from the PR blunder that their new/current "forum" was.
Thanks Niles, this is super helpful. I have read somewhere (can't recall where now) that Papers crashes in High Sierra when editing any bibliographic entry. But this is clearly not your experience, that is at least some comfort.
I agree that information could be more public, but it is a sign (and not a good one) of where this is going. If it were good news, it was all over on Twitter and everywhere. I am super happy with the citations function, as that allows me to work in Scrivener, but what I understand is that the new program will not support this. Therefore it would become useless to me.
Papers seemed to be the only application around that had a decent Mac interface and the ability to cite in any software. Mendeley has an unbelievably poor Mac client for the money that sits behind it in Elsevier and EndNote is just too expensive. If you fancy starting a startup... :)
I've been looking into Bookends for the Mac - not super jazzed about the PDF reader aspect of it, but seems like it may suffice.
As for High Sierra, I've refrained from upgrading based on experiences other members of my group have had with software after upgrading. Our IT guys have also advised against upgrading at this point.
Hi Benjamin, do you refer to experiences with Papers on High Sierra, or in general?